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"Ants" has informed ComingSoon.net that after 34 years of absence, producer Mario Kassar came back to his mother country Lebanon to promote Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, and also talk alittle on Terminator 4.
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"Scooper 'Ants' alerted us that after 34 years of absence, producer Mario Kassar came back to his mother country Lebanon to promote Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. The Movie Guide, a Lebanese film magazine, did an interview with Kassar in which he revealed some interesting bits on the fourth installment.
"T4 is in the works. The screenplay will be ready in 8 or 9 months. Once we have that, we will proceed with the production," said Kassar.
What new things can we look forward to? "The question that has never been answered in all the Terminator films is time travel. You can come from the future to change the present. But we never see how they go back to the future, which is a subject that can be explored. I think you already know where T4 is going from the ending of T3".
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Terminator Will Return Even if Schwarzenegger Wins
Saturday August 9 11:58 AM ET
German producers who backed the Arnold Schwarzenegger sci-fi thriller "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines" said on Saturday there could be another sequel even if he succeeds in becoming governor of California.
"If we come up with a good story, there will be a fourth Terminator -- with or without Arnold," Moritz Bormann, CEO of the Munich-based Internationalmedia, told Welt am Sonntag newspaper.
Schwarzenegger, muscle-bound star of "Conan the Barbarian" and "Total Recall," exploded into the race to unseat embattled California governor Gray Davis during an appearance on "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" this week and is leading the polls.
In an interview released ahead of publication on Sunday, Bormann said he had discussed Schwarzenegger's political ambitions with him during the filming of Terminator 3 and had thought of alternatives should Schwarzenegger win the election.
Another actor could play the opposing figure to the evil female cyborg figure featured in T3 or Schwarzenegger could make his appearances in flashback scenes.
Schwarzenegger, a Republican, has received backing from President Bush. He says he plans to "clean up" the state's capitol in Sacramento, where he said special interests have too much influence over the Democrat-controlled legislature.
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Release Date: TBA 2005
When Carolco Pictures assets were sold off, C-2 Pictures heads Andy Vajna and Mario Kassar secured rights to the entire Terminator franchise. At the time, it was announced there would be multiple sequels made, assuming that the third film was reasonably successful. Since Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines was the first film in the franchise to exist outside the realm of James Cameron, there were obvious concerns about how well a different director could handle the burden of directing a sequel to one of the most respected and successful action films of all time, Terminator 2: Judgment Day. While it’s still too soon to establish the financial success or failure of the third film in the franchise, it’s certainly not too soon to speculate on the fourth film.
In May of 2003, reports began to circulate at the Cannes Film Festival that T4 has already been greenlighted. In addition, Arnold Schwarzenegger has already flip-flopped in the press multiple times when pressed to answer if the 55-year-old actor would be willing to come back for a fourth outing.
While discussing a potential run for governmental office in California, Arnold mentioned that he would be at least 56-years-old when production started for a fourth film and possibly even older depending on how quickly filming would begin. Since this is after all Hollywood, a place where Sean Connery still makes action films, Schwarzenegger’s age is probably not a determining factor in the progress of the sequel. With his recent non-Terminator track record being politely described as spotty at best and much, much worse than that if the Austrian strong man isn’t standing in my vicinity at the time, this hedging sounds like PR spin in the Star Trek “This is definitely the last one/Now we need jobs. Please hire us again” vein rather than any real sort of indicator either way.
What we do know for certain is that T3 executive producer Moritz Borman has already publicly stated that another film will be done “as soon as it’s feasible”. Combining this with the greenlight and the surprising ending of T3, it’s clear that a fourth film has always been desired. The only question is whether the next entry will arrive quickly or if the once a decade pace of the first three movies will continue.
From BOP’s perspective, if there is to be a T4, we suggest a Superstar Terminators edition which sees Robert Patrick, Kristanna Loken, and Schwarzenegger all return to wreak havoc on the human race. As with the first film in the series, we’d like all of the machines to be the enemy with John Connor and Kate Brewster fighting to secure the future of mankind against the seemingly impossible odds of hundreds of T-101, T-1000 and TX units. (David Mumpower/BOP)
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T4: Diesmal in der Zukunft?
Trotz Arnold Schwarzeneggers politischen Ambitionen haben die Arbeiten am vierten Teil der Terminator-Reihe bereits begonnen.
Produzent Mario Kassar sagte in einem Interview, dass das Drehbuch in acht bis neun Monaten fertig gestellt sein wird. Danach soll sofort die Vorproduktion beginnen. Interessanterweise wurde in allen drei Terminator-Filmen bisher nur die Möglichkeit der Zeitreise in die Vergangenheit dargestellt: "Wir haben nie gesehen, wie sie zurück in die Zukunft gehen. Das ist ein Thema, das noch ausgelotet werden kann."
Falls Arnold Schwarzenegger durch sein politisches Engagement nicht zur Verfügung steht, müsse man einen Weg finden, den Film ohne ihn zu machen, so Kassar. |
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Akim sends TheArnoldFans the latest scoop from "Entertainment Weekly" where Nick Stahl admits production on T4 is moving forward. Apparently there are two different scripts being worked on: one with Arnold and one without.
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The Terminator might be back. T3 star Nick Stahl says even if Arnold Schwarzenegger beats out Gary Coleman for the California governorship, there will probably still be a T4. "They're tossing around different ideas now because they're committed to move forward," Stahl tells us. "I know they're developing ideas to do it without him if he's unavailable." Stahl says he would do the film with or without Arnold. |
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Resteverwertung in T4?
Berlin - Der vierte Terminator-Film wird möglicherweise ohne den Hauptdarsteller Arnold Schwarzenegger gedreht, der als Gouverneur von Kalifornien kandidiert. "Wenn wir eine gute Geschichte finden, wird es einen vierten Teil von Terminator geben - mit oder ohne Arnold", sagte Moritz Bormann, Vorstandsvorsitzender der Internationalmedia AG, die "Terminator 3" finanziert und produziert hat.
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Er habe mit Schwarzenegger schon während der Produktion von "Terminator 3" über dessen mögliche politische Karriere gesprochen, sagte Bormann weiter. "Von daher haben wir uns Alternativen überlegt."
Es könnte im vierten Teil etwa einen neuen männlichen Gegenspieler zur "Terminatrix" geben. Oder Schwarzenegger tauche in Vor- und Rückblenden auf. Bormann erklärte, es wäre möglich, Szenen mit dem Schauspieler, die schon gedreht, aber in "Terminator 3" noch nicht benutzt worden sind, für einen vierten Teil zu verwenden. "Das haben wir uns vertraglich zugesichert", sagte der Produzent.
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Fest stehe in jedem Fall, dass Schwarzeneggers Rolle in Teil vier kleiner ausfiele, wenn er tatsächlich zum Gouverneur gewählt werde. Bormann schloss aber auch nicht aus, dass Schwarzenegger noch einmal vor die Kameras tritt: "Wenn Arnold Lust hat, vielleicht dreht er auch als Gouverneur noch mal eine Woche mit uns." Bisher habe er seine Filmkarriere ja noch nicht offiziell beendet. |
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Gerüchte um "T4"
Bei den Kollegen von darkhorizons.com, sind einige Gerüchte und Gedankenspiele rund um einen vierten Terminatorfilm zu lesen, denn der dritte Teil sei zwar nicht so erfolgreich wie der zweite gewesen, dennoch erfolgreich genug, um das Franchise zu beleben.
So wird das dritte Sequel wohl aber ohne seinen Titelhelden auskommen müssen, da ja Schwarzenegger vom Termi- zum Gouvernator mutiert ist. Über die Nachfolge gibt es auch schon die ersten Gerüchte. So soll Dwayne Johnson alias Wresler "the Rock" (bekannt u.a. aus "Die Rückkehr der Mumie" und "Scorpion King") als Arnie-Nachfolger im Gespräch sein.
Es heisst Schwarzenegger habe in Johnsons letztem film einen Cameo-Auftritt gehabt und habe bei der Produktion ein gutes Wort für Johnson eingelegt.
Auch einen Gastauftritt Lina Hamiltons wird nicht ausgeschlossen.
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Der Produzent von T3 hat jetzt verlauten lassen, dass Arnie in T4 auf jeden Fall auftauchen lassen. Und zwar genau in der Form wie wir hier schon seit längerem vermuten: Mittels der deleted scenes von T3...
Eigentlich keine wirklich schlechte Nachricht. Aber das schränkt den Handlungsbereich von T4 auch wieder ein und eine Ultimate Edition von T3 wirds dadurch auch nicht geben... |
Das es keine UE geben wird bezweifel ich, denn es wurden ja auch einige Szenen geschnitten die nichts mit Arnie zutun hatten. Aber blöd ist das schon das sie Resteverwertung machen  .
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Latest "Terminator 4" Rumblings
Speculation, Speculation and more Speculation is never complete without a heavy dose of wannabe action too. An interesting report over on TheArnoldFans which could either mean two things: Arnold Schwarzenegger has agreed to act in “Terminator 4” and “Terminator 5”, or that his double Lyndall Grant, is filling in for him. A press-release of sorts appears on the site, informing folks of the double’s availability – invite the Terminator to your party etc – and states that Grant is contracted to do two more “Terminator” instalments among the fifteen or so films he has in the works. Interesting. It’s more than likely he’ll be doubling Arnold again for them, but the question is, when and how is the Governator going to get time for this? As previously rumoured, there are apparently a couple of scripts in the works for the next “Terminator” film, one with Arnie, and one without Arnie. Over on the ArnoldFans.com forum’s one writer has unleashed a summary of a “T4” script he’s writing.
His script is called “Terminator 4 : Bleak Future”. “John Connor and Kate Brewster come out to the surface, looking upon the damage that was left behind by the bombs. The machines will soon be attacking the people. Now John is faced with a question: "Where to go from here?" He's suddenly put into an even deadlier situation when a T-X comes back from the future to terminate as many people as she can and a mission that is not yet known to anybody else. John and Kate have to thwart machines and bring together the resistance. Years later into 2032, Connor has HOPE in the victory of the war. They are slowly reaching the ending. Through this happy time though, Skynet is frantically sending in and out Infiltrators to the camp. Most are failing, but the resistance gets worried later on when they see alternate procedures that they are performing. To top it off, some of the members find a T-850, complete in flesh and blood, naked near their site. He's broken and by the looks of it, he came through the time portal. John has his people fix him. And the T-850 is fixed and now he, indeed, has a mission. Only this time, he won't tell Connor, or anybody else. John is worried. "If Skynet is becoming smarter with their missions, could it be possible to have a machine get you to gain trust in it?"
Another writer on the site says he’s been writing a “Robocop vs. Terminator” script. Difference is this one’s actually in development apparently.
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"T4" MOVES FORWARD WITH ARNOLD!
Arnold fan Abking and his brother have some promising news for "Terminator 4". Mario Kassar and Andrew Vajna are focusing again on the next Terminator film! They were asked about their future projects - "We are gearing up for some very huge projects! We are focusing all of our energies on Terminator 4! We have an amazing idea that will make sci-fi movie goers cheer. It stays true to the Terminator universe says Vajna. Arnold will be back for this one, but for how long he will be in the film is the question right now.
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James Cameron being sought for Terminator 5
An employee of C2 Pictures contacted Moviehole to let us know what's happening with "Terminator 4" - and semi-surprisingly, "Terminator 5" - as a bit of a follow-up to the comments The Rock makes this month about doing a two-hander with Schwarzenegger. Seems there is a possibility of that happening.
'Anonymous' says "T4 will not be the last Terminator film. In fact, Mario Kassar and Andrew Vajna have already signed Jonathan Mostow to write and direct Terminator 4 and will try to woe James Cameron himself for the last film in the Terminator franchise, Terminator 5. Afterall, Mr. Cameron loves a great sequel and Mario and Andy are going to make him an offer he can't refuse".
And is there any truth to the rumours that The Rock's going to appear in one of them? "The Rock wants to star in Terminator 4 only if Schwarzenegger is in the film."
According to the insider, "T4" is pencilled to open in theatres in either 2006 or 2007.
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Our man in the loop on all things C2 checked in with an update on all things "Terminator" this weekend, saying Schwarzenegger will definitely be a part of both of the two planned sequels.
"I've learned (removed) that the offer Mario Kassar and Andrew Vajna will make James Cameron to come back to direct the final chapter in his own Terminator universe is to give him "complete control" on the project.
Kassar and Vajna will still own the rights (and would be fools to give it up due to the millions they will make) but the idea or deal is to give Cameron full control to do or write whatever he wants. This is said to include a pay day that wil rival or eclips Peter Jackson's deal for King Kong (20 million upfront plus a huge percentage).
Also, not to belittle T4 before it comes out or ruin anything, but Mario and Andy wants Arnold back for T5 (the final chapter) playing the evil cyborg. When I say "evil", I mean just as nasty as he was in The Terminator. Before he became a babysiter in T2 & T3."
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T4 & T5 RUMORS TO DETOUR THE FANS?
"Infiltrator" reveals Terminator status!
After all these rumors of T4 and T5 running wild, TheArnoldFans decided to tap into the film studio's system core and do our own eavesdropping. We talked to an infiltrator who was a little nervous to dish the dirt, however, he gave the information for the good of of mankind.
"No one here is talking of any kind of James Cameron comeback. I'm sure you of all people know that Cameron would never come back anyways. He was denied creative control earlier and Cameron wouldn't be so forgiving as to come back and commit to T5 - some five plus years from now. It's ridicules."
Our infiltrator didn't need to go on; this was what we had already figured. Our guess is that Cameron could be lured back to a T4 if he had complete control and he could wrap up the full story with T4. No need for a T5, T6 and so on. Cameron will want closure and not want another director to follow him again to alter his timelines and his story.
James Cameron won't wait years to commit to a Terminator part 5 just for the money. Cameron is no sell out. Passion is his drive, not a hefty payoff check to lure him back.
So why all of these T4 and T5 news stories? We were surprised to hear it was quite possibly an attempt to silence the united fans who support the special edition of T3.5.
"Your petition for fixing T3 is turning heads here. I think it has reached higher up than what you think. We all know of it (the petition) and I doubt the word stopped here on our floor. To answer your question...(long pause)... we really think your attempts are being silenced. But I hear what you guys are saying; just a few newly inserted scenes and reinserted footage would make a world of difference. Mario and Andy are good guys you know. I think they’d support you but my guess is the producers have the wrong idea for your improved T3 at this time. They are probably thinking you guys want to scrap T3 and reshoot the whole thing."
No, no! That is not at all the case but WOW, an attempt to silence the fans by making them think all of their efforts are currently on T4 and T5? It does sound like desperation to have them spread rumors of James Cameron, Vin Diesel, the Rock and Linda Hamilton return. Although they try to make it sound like the script for T9 is almost done, we hear the truth is, the T4 script is still a rough, sloppy draft. Perhaps they should bring us Terminator aficionados onboard to fix the script?
We also learned Mostow is also tied up for years on his latest project and does not wish to return to T4. The infiltrator tells us that there was a blow out between the producers and the director for reasons he did not want to elaborate on in to much detail.
"...we think they can get Mostow back as long as he is given more control as well. It makes more sense to try to lure Mostow back now for T4 instead of trying for Cameron some six years from now when T5 is ready."
Exactly. Mostow or Cameron should be back for T3.5 and T4. Let's stick with two great Terminator directors and not bring on a new one for every new Terminator film.
In the next week or two, TheArnoldFans will be speaking with someone very high up on the Terminator ladder to discuss T3.5. You all know this person well. Like we mentioned, people in high places are listening. We're not the only ones who believe by upgrading T3 to be a GREAT FILM will boost hype and overall box office for T4. We can win if we all believe and sign HERE!
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John Brancato über "Terminator 4"
"Catwoman" Co-Autor John Brancato erzählte Latino Review, dass er auch das Drehbuch für "Terminator 4" und "Westworld" schreiben wird.
Brancator wird es bei "Terminator 4" nicht leicht haben, da er eine Story ohne Arnold Schwarzenegger in der Hauptrolle entwickeln muss, da der Schauspieler und kalifornische Gouverneur höchsten für einen kurzen Cameo-Auftritt zur Verfügung steht. "Wir mussten über einen neuen Franchise-Charakter nachdenken", sagte der Drehbuchautor. "Er könnte in den nächsten Filmen nicht mehr mitspielen und die Rolle nicht länger tragen. Das zwang uns zu einer ganz neuen Herangehensweise in der Hinsicht, was unser neuer Terminator sein könnte. In welcher Richtung würde er angesiedelt sein. Natürlich musste ich wieder einige Papiere unterschreiben, damit ich nichts verrate. So gern ich auch über das Drehbuch sprechen möchte, ich kann ihnen wirklich nichts sagen."
Und worum dreht es sich bei "Westworld"? "'Westworld' ist ein Remake des klassischen Filmes, der von Michael Crichton in den Siebzigern geschrieben wurde" und den der Autor damals selbst verfilmte.
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The fourth installment in the TERMINATOR franchise is gearing up to start production in 2005 as writers John Brancato and Michael Ferris have completed a draft of a script that was developed under the supervision of TERMINATOR 3 director Jonathan Mostow. Mostow is next filming an untitled thriller for Paramount (based on his own script) but is expected to then segue into TERMINATOR 4. Both Nick Stahl and Claire Danes are contractually obliged to star in another TERMINATOR film, it's unclear if the film will focus on both of their characters. Since Arnold is busy running the state of Calee-forniah, it seems if he does agree to appear in the film, it will be in a very limited role and the fourth TERMINATOR will focus on another version of the futuristic cyborg. Now that the script has been submitted, the process of setting up the budget now begins and that could dictate how the rest of the production moves. Of course the question remains, "Do we need a TERMINATOR 4, especially when the hotly anticipated TERMINATOR 3 disappointed at the box-office?" And the answer to that is no...unless James Cameron were to return but that's just crazy talk.
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T4: Ohne Stahl und Danes!
„Die T4 Story hat ein anderes Konzept“
Der Schauspieler Nick Stahl, der John Connor in "Terminator 3" spielte, erzählte "Sci Fi Wire", dass er und Claire Danes in der Fortsetzung Terminator 4 nicht dabei sein werden.
"Niemand aus dem dritten Teil wird dabei sein. Die T4 Story hat ein anderes Konzept. Ich denke es wird ausschließlich in der Zukunft spielen und mein Charakter ist dann wesentlich älter. Das ist alles was ich weiß. Also werd ich nicht mehr mitspielen."
Er fügte hinzu, dass die Produzenten derzeit planen auch auf Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator 4 gänzlich zu verzichten.
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Na das wird ja ein Film werden  Ob da überhaupt noch wer ins Kino geht?  Ich kann mir ehrlich gesagt nicht vorstellen, dass das ein Erfolg wird. Vielleicht wär's das beste, es bei den drei ersten Teilen zu belassen.
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Naja, viele hatten ja schon bei Teil 3 gehofft das wir endlich den Krieg sehen werden, war dann leider nicht der Fall. Also mich würde so ein Film schon reizen, wenn er richtig gemacht ist. Hätte ja gedacht das dieser nur wenige Jahre nach T3 spielen wird, aber vielleicht wollen sie mit 4 bereits die Franchise beenden und gehen deshalb weiter in die Zukunft. Eigentich war ja noch ein 5. Teil geplant.
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Ich würde so einen T4 schon gerne sehen. Daß er weiter in der Zukunft spielt, das finde ich in Ordnung. Auch Danes und Stahl brauche ich nicht, wenn der Zukunfts-Connor einigermaßen so ausschaut wie in T1 und T2. Aber was ich fürchterlich fände, wäre ein T4 ohne Arnie. Der muß IMO auf jeden Fall rein und wenn es nur ein Cameo ist.  |
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| Aber was ich fürchterlich fände, wäre ein T4 ohne Arnie. |
Genau das meinte ich eigentlich ja. Terminator ohne Arnie wäre das selbe wie schwimmen ohne Wasser. 
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Wenn der Film weiter in der Zukunft spielt, dann wäre dieser Krieg doch fast schon wieder vorbei. Also alles ist schon Kaputt und die Menschen sind nur noch im Untergrund. So wie ganz am Anfang vom ersten Teil.
Aber an den ganzen Bedingungen an die sich die Produzenten halten müssen sieht man schon, dass es in erster Linie darum geht einen Film zu machen der TERMINATOR heißt. Und so eine Story mit Zeitreisen lässt es auch noch zu, dass man tausend Möglichkeiten zum dran rumbiegen hat.
Am besten wäre es vielleicht, wenn Cameron ein Buch schreiben würde wie er sich das wirklich vorstellt, dann kann da auch jeder so oft drin vorkommen wie es für die Handlung richtig ist. Aber auf die (eigentlich gute) Story kam es ja schon im dritten Teil nicht mehr an und sie wurde einfach nicht gezeigt bzw. nur mal am Rade erwähnt.
Könnte man nicht einfach einen anderen "Schauspieler" für Arnie nehmen, der dann eine grüne Maske aufhat, die dann am Computer durch das Orgienalgesicht ersetzt wird. Sollte bei einem einzigem Gesichtsausdruck nicht sooo schwer sein. Und reden würde er in der Zukunft doch auch nicht so viel (gar nicht). Er soll ja nur drei mal in die Vergangenheit geschickt werden. |
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Mit einem einzigen Schauspieler, der Arnie ersetzt, wäre es wahrscheinlich nicht getan. Arnie ist ein gängiges T-Modell in der Zukunft, da müßten doch massenweise Arnies rumlaufen .... Mich würde es schon interessieren, wie der Krieg ausgeht und ob Arnie wirklich John umbringt.
Die Story in T3 fand ich schon wichtig; man hat erfahren, was Skynet ist, wie der Krieg begann und daß Connor einen ganzen Bunker samt Kommunikationseinrichtungen für sich hat. |
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Ja alle diese wichtigen Storyelemente werden kurz am Rande erwähnt. Während die im Bus fahren oder so. Und danach kommt ein harter Schnitt zur nächsten Ballerei.
Im meine der Film geht gerade mal 90 Minuten und hat noch mehr Action als die 2 stündigen Vorgänger.
Da hat was mit der Gewichtung nicht gestimmt. Und ich bezweifle, dass das bei einem 4. oder gar 5. anders ausfallen würde. |
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Erste Gespräche zu Terminator 4
Die ersten Gespräche für einen vierten Terminator-Film haben begonnen. Der Designer John Rosengrant traf sich seinen Angaben zu Folge mit dem Regisseur Jonathan Mostow, um erste Details zu besprechen. Das berichtet ScifiWire.
Konkrete Informationen wollten die beiden aber nicht bekannt geben. "Es ist zu früh, um jetzt schon festzulegen, wie ein neuer Terminator aussehen wird", sagte Rosengrant dem Onlinedienst ScifiWire. Er wird das Kostüm voraussichtlich erfinden. Für ihn hänge das in erster Linie auch von dem Skript ab.
Als sicher gilt, dass Arnold Schwarzenegger, der derzeit um seine Wiederwahl in Kalifornien kämpft, nicht noch einmal in der Rolle zu sehen sein wird. Er hatte zuletzt versprochen, lediglich einen Gastauftritt zu absolvieren. Allerdings nur, wenn er in Kalifornien arbeiten könnte. Der Film soll Berichten zu folge in Ungarn gedreht werden.
Regisseur Jonathan Mostow hat unterdessen offenbar bereits ein Skript erarbeitet.
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